The last days of Berrima Correctional Centre

I had a great deal of time to save and

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what she did she had some of the most

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difficult prisoners that ever was in

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Long Bay in her art class and then and

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she used to get 100 epidem no one else

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could that I know and so I always made

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sure that I went for Long Bay

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I'd go around and see Sue she was in a

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little corner of the jail and a lot of

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people were against her and what she was

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trying to do and but I always admired

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her for the work she did and she did a

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fantastic job

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and I don't think anyone's done as good

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ever since I know and some of those

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prisoners were very dangerous man very

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Dangerously in their own right when you

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look at their criminal Behavior but

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since he did the best album

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she's a nice and shine and a lot of them

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had no idea of the ability they had

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themselves and she could bring the best

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out in them so they shown in art and

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sculpture she went around Parramatta

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jail and photographed all the signage

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on the yards and some of the those signs

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of parameters have been painted over

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with the same yard number for 100 years

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and they've really done in in a style

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that they probably did in the mid-1800s

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some of them and she had a photographing

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account of all those and I thought there

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was a billions of projects if there's

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any mules in the job she was very

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interested in the in the hip not only

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the painting but the history of it and

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who did it in the history of the

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offenders who did that sort of thing

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his remarkable adult everyone liked it

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they were shared interest in who did it

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and where it came from and she used to

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have that outlet to sell off

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down

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Central Industrial prison gate yeah and

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that was very well

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attended

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by yourself and people from the outside

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even businesses wouldn't buy out there

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so that Gallery is still running now

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even though we've moved it a couple of

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times I've kept it and running

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continuously and last week we had a

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special nadoc week art competition where

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inmates around the jails were encouraged

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to do paintings on natak week you know

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and the theme that always was and always

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will be well that's a fantastic thing to

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do as you know my interest in Aboriginal

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agendas and their program

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yeah I think that's a very worthwhile

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project and as is the art of Bathurst

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child

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in the the building designed as a

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the token of the wereagery

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people at balance

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matters is the monitor lizard so the

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design of that art

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gallery and where the prisoners paint at

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Bathurst is designed as

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a

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iguana

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with a tail being the ramp for the

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Wheelchairs and prams and things

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and the head is actually raised above

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the ground where the prison is actually

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paint

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and they're from the air it is the X-ray

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that will go out

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some of the ministers took a bit of an

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interest in it I remember your friend

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um John hat says to us now the judge in

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the district court was also really keen

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on the art program and anytime he went

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anywhere near Long Bay he'd go out there

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and spend some time in the gallery as

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well and used to buy he made art yeah

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even things like

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I used to call a pet rock and The Rock

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was Aboriginal painting on it he's your

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pet rock and he's your pet rock and it

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was very good he's got a lot of he's got

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a lot of joy out of that well some of

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the art that they did was excellent

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you know I've had some assists for a

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professional and I said it's good to

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live soon around some of it some of it

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wasn't so good but every time I went to

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bawana

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prisoners and put all their art around

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their donors and as I walked around I

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knew I had to buy something every normal

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empty seasons was twenty dollars at

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least I bought something

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and really throw those offenders the sad

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thing is they don't know their ability

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when it comes to art and dancing you

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introduce them to dancing and playing

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didgeridoo and that sort of thing you

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know just changes the demeanor greater

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she was a very she got an aura of face

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or anything and she was never aggressive

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even though I've seen I hope she must

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have been wild at some of the reactions

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from prisoners to what she was doing

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down there on her own they always

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thought it should have an officer in

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there and they'd look at the money and

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they'd they'd be jealous of her doing

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that job down there on her own without a

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prison officer and that that was

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according to a lot of it but she was

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very peaceful calm person

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and even the most aggressive prisoner

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would say that in a straight away and

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respond to it honestly I had the

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greatest respect for yourself

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you did a fantastic job

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and I always supported what she did

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and

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thanks very much a little contribution

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to practice services that you make